Tentative Declaration:

"JawzX2, Boost Addict. 1.6t, 2.7tt, 4.2t" (jawzx2) 12/19/2018 at 14:14 • Filed to: hyundai kona

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The Hyundai Kona Limited with the 1.6t is the spiritual sucessor to the ~2004 Subaru Forester 2.5xt. No manual trans (how many manual Forester 2.5xt’s were sold? Not many...) , a little less power and torque, ~20lbs lighter. .. Sporty handling and quick for a small SUV, more carlike than many, about the same dimensions (the Kona has a 3 inch longer wheelbase, is 2 inches wider, 2 inches lower roof height and 11 inches shorter overall vs the SG Forester).

The Crazy Kanuck; RIP Oppositelock > JawzX2, Boost Addict. 1.6t, 2.7tt, 4.2t 12/19/2018 at 14:43

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You just described a Juke. 

HFV has no HFV. But somehow has 2 motorcycles > JawzX2, Boost Addict. 1.6t, 2.7tt, 4.2t 12/19/2018 at 14:44

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no one is a square wagon, the other is a hatchback .

vicali > JawzX2, Boost Addict. 1.6t, 2.7tt, 4.2t 12/19/2018 at 15:09

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SG is a wagon, and has headlights..

facw > HFV has no HFV. But somehow has 2 motorcycles 12/19/2018 at 15:29

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The Forester is the most crossovery thing to ever cross over.

wafflesnfalafel > The Crazy Kanuck; RIP Oppositelock 12/19/2018 at 15:34

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yeah - I think the market has split - one camp going slightly smaller and zippier (Kona and Juke), the other moving larger and traditional...

HFV has no HFV. But somehow has 2 motorcycles > facw 12/19/2018 at 15:36

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but the body shape is wagon. tones or rear cargo room and a flat roof going to a near vertical rear glass It was more wagon shaped than the actual Impreza wagon. 

the Kona is a lifted hatchback . and there for cant compare to a lifted wagon. 

beardsbynelly - Rikerbeard > JawzX2, Boost Addict. 1.6t, 2.7tt, 4.2t 12/19/2018 at 15:38

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they have similar wheelbases but they do not have the same dimensions anywhere else.

the Forester is a lifted wagon, the Kona is a tall hatchback.

The Forester has a seats flat max cargo capacity of 1629L, the Kona’s is 1143L

The Forester is a long boy for carrying your kayak to the lake, the Kona is a squat boy for grabbing your groceries.

I really like the Kona, but a Forester it isn’t.

HFV has no HFV. But somehow has 2 motorcycles > facw 12/19/2018 at 15:45

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some crossovers are hatchbacks crossed with a SUV.some are a Wagnon crossed with an SUV

the Forester is not a hatchback. 

SilentButNotReallyDeadly...killed by G/O Media > JawzX2, Boost Addict. 1.6t, 2.7tt, 4.2t 12/19/2018 at 17:10

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As someone who has a SJ Forester with a bit of age to it hanging around...this comparison is relevant to my interests.

JawzX2, Boost Addict. 1.6t, 2.7tt, 4.2t > The Crazy Kanuck; RIP Oppositelock 12/19/2018 at 18:29

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The Juke is dead, Long Live Kona!

The Crazy Kanuck; RIP Oppositelock > JawzX2, Boost Addict. 1.6t, 2.7tt, 4.2t 12/19/2018 at 18:39

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Dead in metal, but not in my heart. 

JawzX2, Boost Addict. 1.6t, 2.7tt, 4.2t > beardsbynelly - Rikerbeard 12/19/2018 at 18:51

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That extra 11-inches length in the Forester makes a difference, I accept that.

JawzX2, Boost Addict. 1.6t, 2.7tt, 4.2t > SilentButNotReallyDeadly...killed by G/O Media 12/19/2018 at 19:00

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Try one, I’m quite liking ours.

SilentButNotReallyDeadly...killed by G/O Media > JawzX2, Boost Addict. 1.6t, 2.7tt, 4.2t 12/19/2018 at 22:28

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Clearly!! We might wait till the electric Kona is launched next year... besides the nearest Hyundai dealer is an hour and a half away (as are most others) so it’ll take a while to get around to.

The Dummy Gummy > SilentButNotReallyDeadly...killed by G/O Media 12/20/2018 at 08:12

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I’ve been struggling with this decision too. I really like the electric version, but do you think it’s worth the $9k more? I don’t know if justify that unless fuel goes to $5 a gallon.

The Dummy Gummy > JawzX2, Boost Addict. 1.6t, 2.7tt, 4.2t 12/20/2018 at 08:12

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I don’t get the comparison.

CompactLuxuryFan > JawzX2, Boost Addict. 1.6t, 2.7tt, 4.2t 12/20/2018 at 13:00

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Like 3 inches less of ground clearance? A current Crosstrek seems to have more in common.

JawzX2, Boost Addict. 1.6t, 2.7tt, 4.2t > CompactLuxuryFan 12/20/2018 at 14:10

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E xcept the Crosstrek is boring as dirt, unexciting as a molasses race in D ecember, and almost completely without charm.

CompactLuxuryFan > JawzX2, Boost Addict. 1.6t, 2.7tt, 4.2t 12/20/2018 at 15:01

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That’s what I thought about the first gen Forester, and look at me now. 

SilentButNotReallyDeadly...killed by G/O Media > The Dummy Gummy 12/20/2018 at 17:04

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We are paying $1.50 per litre at the moment...for E10. If you want premium then add another 10 cents.

We just need a short distance (20 km ) rough road commuter for daily use with the odd 250 km inter town trip... something like the eKona or the equivalent Kia e-Niro are the first of this type that we'd consider as reasonable options.